I was waiting for comments from other admins...

^ then do it antp

In the same way many of those that we listed as "Custom Made Dune Buggy" could possibly be identified, but it is so little likely that we preferred listing them in a category separated from the regular "unknown"...

Annother problem is, that if you are really in the country, you aren't allowed to take pics of any military things. Which in fact is not that dramatic, because if you act smart with the camera, you can make unnoticed masses of photos - but we have known it just after passing the (very relaxed) emigration controls

Plus the problem, that so many things over there are secrets or taboos, that the local people, even the well-informed guides, don't know anything. Or -which is more common- that they aren't allowed to talk about it. So they say nothing or something wrong (as for example about the origin of foreign cars, especially US-cars. I've asked about that)

there are soo many vehicles listed as unknown doubt anyone really cares for North Korea military ones that much

On the contrary. The purpose of the Unidentified list is to raise people's awareness of the unknown vehicles. These belong there. If anyone wants to find them quickly they can just search for them, like in any other case.

well if the real names comes out all would be needed is to look for North korea or DPRK manufacterer and change it but probaly won't hapen in out life time.... China protests that psychopatic regime too much

a friend of mine from Romania said that friend of his was visiting North Korea back in 2004 , they asked him where he comes from and his said Romania, the North Korean replied " ahh Romania, how is comrade Ceasescu doing ?" of course Ceasescu faced a firing squad back in 1989 ... they keep their own population totally misinformed, bet most in North korea still beleive Ceasescu is alive over 20 years after his execution

A little knowledge about DPRK-vehicles and plates was very helpful for my travel companion an me to "brake the ice" with our two (mandatory) guides. Of course at the beginning, in the bus from the airport they asked us carefully about our knowledge about their country, what and where we read or watched something about it.
The first community spirit came just a few minutes after leaving the airport. After we all could breath again after the shock of seeing the death coming - a gravel-truck nearly had crashed into us head-on.

At our first photo-stop they made big eyes, when Alex and me have asked the guide (the older male one, the young lady had no knowledge about cars) "Is that a Sungri?", "Is that a Chollima?", "Do you know any Sungri Paektusan, the Mercedes 190-copy still running?" and so on

When I took this pic



we all were shocked. Me, because it was nearly killed again within just 20 minutes after the gravel truck-incident. And the guides, because they have seen, who was in the car, resp. the car-convoi. Yes, it was HIM, Kim Jong Un himself. We haven't seen him, but otherwise: who else in Northkorea is travelling in a convoi, including two stretched S-Klasse-Benzes (W220-based), escorted by half a dozen black BMWs, Lexuses and BMW X5 with sirens and military plates??


After that shock I provoked annother one Because of being totally excited about that motiv:



Because it was a Tatra, but more about the extreme rarity of a private plate. Then was our "battlecry" created, with whom we irritated the guides and the driver a few times more: "TAATRAAA!" In the bus combinated with jumps over the seats to get the pics. Finally I remember 5 or 6 Tatra 613 in Pyongyang - and all with private plates!!

I don't agree at all. This issue keeps being pursued for the sole reason of taking them off the Unidentified list. There was basically no information about other old North Korean vehicles until Birgit created the Picasa album now moved to 'chinesecars.net' but he doesn't list military vehicles. The factory names for tanks could be found too, possibly on South Korean websites (written in Korean). I must admit that I haven't searched because military vehicles do not interest me but listing them as DPRK or North Korea won't help at all because they will still be unidentified. Keeping them as 'unknown' will do no harm whatsoever and they shouldn't be changed until the correct names are discovered.