But the problem with those two SUVs is that they are so expensive and pristine, how many of them are actually used for rough, hard offroading? If you had spent so much money of one of those would you want to get it all dirty and scuffed up? If you needed a workhorse car for proper offroading, wouldn't it make more sense to get a Land Rover Defender, they are much tougher and more workmanlike, and it's not the kind of vehicle you'd worry about getting dented and scratched. The Porsche Cayenne is far more of a luxurious, sporty status symbol than a true offroader, despite it's offroading prowess. When was the last time you saw a dirty Cayenne? To be honest you wouldn't want to take a new Cayenne offroad anymore than you'd want to take a Maserati Quattroporte offroad. Yes, the Ford Expedition, Porsche Cayenne and Range Rover can actually do some decent offroading (unlike some SUVs), but are they actually better than a Land Rover Defender (apart from the issue of comfort)? By the way how many 4x4s match up to the Defender, in true ultilitarian terms? The only one I can think of is the AM General HMMWV.