Subject: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
08/02/2006 @ 23:47:36: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
After a short discussion on that page: http://www.imcdb.org/movie.php?id=83437
I create this topic to add few links for people that are interested by this subject.

Here is a very interesting article about Citroën in the USA, but in French.
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00097sa.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00104eb.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00112sp.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00129bc.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00136fq.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00141pe.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00153vz.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00164vg.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00176qq.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00182le.jpg

About CXA, still in French:
http://img202.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00014uo.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser9os.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/full.php?image=numriser00031cb.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=numriser00049yw.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=numriser00057qb.jpg

I hope that I did not forget any page.
I found it on the second of the two links below. The other link has lots of pictures.

Pour les francophones, deux sujets sur Forum-Auto, avec pas mal d'images dans le premier :
http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlforum/section5/sujet129119.htm
http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlforum/section1/sujet269418.htm
09/02/2006 @ 20:26:31: DIEHARD: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Thanks for the articles Antoine, They look nice, although I cannot read most of it...
12/03/2007 @ 14:04:33: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
More that one year later, I "up" this topic to add an interesting link:
A Citroën on Ebay, which is actually as CXA as it is a 1987 model:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Citroen-CX-Prestige_W0QQitemZ130086641853QQcategoryZ6183QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI- tem
On the pictures the CXA logo is well visible.
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9038/1987cxacx01bu7.th.jpg http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8510/1987cxacx04ol7.th.jpg http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5536/1987cxacx11ym6.th.jpg
13/03/2007 @ 21:25:21: DIEHARD: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Nice Spot! And now find the first one in a movie... :wink:

I actually got a mail from a US guy some days ago, who had imported a GSA from France to Southern California... remarkable too...


Have you seen the Question and answer:
Question & Answer Answered On

Q: hi. nice CXA and i hope it that it gets a good home. a nit- picking point to your description: CXA did not have to be federalized as they were imported (from CXA in Holland) fully compliant to US specs. The conversions were well thought out and of very high quality, as compared to the troublesome CINA- inported cars. Tell the next owner to give it the proper care, and it will last another 20 years with no problem. good luck, kenny Mar-06-07
A: Thanks for the correction Kenny!

They where actually converted in Holland :smile:
13/03/2007 @ 21:30:55: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Actually CXA still exist under another form: http://www.citroen-andre.com/
It is a Netherlands-based company, they still send French cars to USA and other countries: http://www.citroen-andre.com/showroomrecentsales.html
14/03/2007 @ 10:30:01: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
A US-specs Renault 16 !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Renault-Renault-16TS-1971-Renault-16TS-VERY-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6385QQitemZ250093905256QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4408/6dfb12ow0.th.jpg
14/03/2007 @ 12:58:27: DIEHARD: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Very nice too, although it doesn't look much different from the European version. I guess it must be imported before US regulations about bumpers etc got introduced.

I don't understand the French plate upfront though, how did he got that?
14/03/2007 @ 14:07:15: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
A fake one maybe (or bought on Ebay, or send by someone that was in France, ...)
18/03/2007 @ 16:21:42: bref: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Us bumper started from 1974, so it is normal to find pre-1974 car with their original bumper as this R16, which only has side light (from 1968 only) and sealed beam headlights replacing original one

You can cross German car with fake German late at the front in the US...seems to be trendy to wear a plate from the car's birth country
21/03/2007 @ 00:49:26: Toenz: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
And now find the first one in a movie...

According to this site there's one featured in Mo' Better Blues. But I can't confirm.

Edit: well.. at least there's a CX:
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3157/mobetterbluescxpj7.th.jpg
21/03/2007 @ 11:21:17: DIEHARD: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis

According to this site there's one featured in Mo' Better Blues. But I can't confirm.

Edit: well.. at least there's a CX:
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3157/mobetterbluescxpj7.th.jpg


Nice Spot Tönz. I think it must be the CXA, in the clip..... There where several other CX's in US movies, but no CXA was spotted untill now...

The site you refer too is not right on all things:
- the movie 'The French Connection' driven by Gene Hackman;

There's no CX in that, it was released in 1971...long before the CX was launched....

I have added the rest of the movies from that page to the site, which were not already listed...
21/03/2007 @ 12:02:36: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
I uploaded the picture from Tönz and I renamed the "Citroën CXA" to "CXA CX"
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=94921
It was not sold as a Citroën. CXAuto was saying that the buyers should not worry about Citroën going off from the US marked as the cars "were CXA and not Citroën". In addition of that, on the rear and on documents only CXA is mentionned, not Citroën.
cf the photo that I posted above: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8510/1987cxacx04ol7.jpg
21/03/2007 @ 20:23:07: qwerty_86: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
I found this article in Car and Driver (April 1993) and thought I'd share it with you guys. It's about the Citroen XM. I'm surprised it gets pretty bad gas mileage from a 3.0L OHC V6 (15/21). I mean this car is roughly the same weight, but slightly smaller than a Ford Taurus and it has a 3.0L OHV V6 that gets 20/29.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8898/cnd4931gd3.th.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3051/cnd4932nr5.th.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9374/cnd4933ip6.th.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7406/cnd4934rq8.th.jpg
21/03/2007 @ 21:43:29: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Nice ! Thank you very much for these pages :smile:
About the consumption, it is possible. I remember that early XM had not a so good MPG. Do not forget that here such car is in the upper category, unlike what the Taurus is in USA, so I suppose that the fuel economy is not much a big problem.
Anyway, here the 2.0 version was much more common, and also the Diesel versions.
22/03/2007 @ 04:24:09: qwerty_86: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Maybe that's it. I did notice a luxury car tax on it. It is a rather attractive car. I wouldn't mind having one.
22/03/2007 @ 10:30:02: DIEHARD: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
Thanks qwerty, that makes very good reading :smile:
23/03/2007 @ 02:38:08: salvation: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
That Car and Driver article was an intresting read :clindoeil:
23/03/2007 @ 20:43:36: qwerty_86: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
You're welcome. :smile: I bought that issue for a different article and just thought as long as I was scanning stuff in I'd scan that one too.
10/04/2007 @ 14:05:43: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
A Twingo in USA:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-RENAULT-TWINGO-HERE-IN-AMERICA_W0QQitemZ190100393487QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
31/05/2007 @ 10:35:01: antp: French cars in the USA / Voitures françaises aux États-Unis
An Argentinian Citroën 3CV:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unique-3CV-LOW-RESERVE-PRICE-2CV-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ230133578861QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6183QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQc- mdZViewItem
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