Subject: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
16/09/2013 @ 11:43:22: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
Many were just changed from "unknown" to "Club Car unknown" - I guess many of these should be listed as "Club Car DS" ? Or just without model name?
16/09/2013 @ 17:07:19: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
I am not sure of correct model name , frankly they could be listed without model name alltogether ,except for the "carryall" none is adverted with moden name

http://www.machinio.com/cat/Golf-carts-CLUB-CAR


the new models seem to named "Precedent"
which would be this http://imcdb.org/vehicle_459272-Club-Car.html
16/09/2013 @ 17:28:33: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
EDIT seems I may found a convention

the ones with the extra seat and long roof in the back are Villager 4 while the normal ones DS http://www.angeloscarts.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/villager4.jpg

so that means from this list http://imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Club+Car_model-unknown.html

Villager 4 are

http://imcdb.org/vehicle_622941-Club-Car.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_526415-Club-Car.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_487273-Club-Car.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_52175-Club-Car.html


this looks like Precedent

http://imcdb.org/vehicle_514808-Club-Car.html


the rest DS
16/09/2013 @ 18:38:09: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
while we are it TOM11 did an excellent work over a year ago with the EZGO and he got them right IMO

I think what people get confused is that there are no headlights and headligghts versions :petrus:
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=182076
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_195412-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=203967
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=206321
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_209108-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=213679
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_216623-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=217578
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_224373-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_247614-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_259768-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_273972-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_288907-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_396785-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_396856-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_250538-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_403987-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_406571-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_432825-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_441424-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_443544-E-Z-GO.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_450057-E-Z-Go.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_465811-E-Z-Go.html
16/09/2013 @ 18:54:02: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
while we are it TOM11 did an excellent work over a year ago with the EZGO and he got them right IMO


The problem is that when we checked more carefully he was also more guessing than identifying. Especially when it was possible to verify :tongue:
And I am afraid that sometimes you identify too fast too, e.g. http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=629548


I do not have time to rename all these E-Z-Go now, tomorrow if I do not forget, or if another admin passes there...
16/09/2013 @ 19:13:43: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
well I had this 2 nice diagrams to check his work so I just didn't blindly put them here
http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/images/newlanding/ezgo_chart.jpg
http://e-z-go-media.precis5.com/0c9ebb2ded806d7ffda75cd0b95eb70c


the RXV often has same look that TXT (specially in recent model years) but bumper is much thiker and RXV is much much rarer because its much more expensive
16/09/2013 @ 20:22:30: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
I didn't say that specifically for these gold carts, I was just speaking in general for tanks, fire engines, etc. All the stuff you tried to identify recently.
As in the past those who seemed to identify correctly all these "forever unknown" things were at the same time completely off when trying to identify more common vehicles...
16/09/2013 @ 21:07:37: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
LOL

I am the type , seems I had a good talent with tanks, quads , golf kart and now fire truck

I think the main reason is there are simply very few manufacturers for this vehicles and the vehicle pool itself is very small compared to ordinary cars (specialy US ones which looked different every year) plus they are build for years (even decades) without any noticeable outside changes


golf cart is a great example, only 3 main manufacterers (Yamaha, EZGO and Club Car) , you only need to search harder if nothing fits for those 3 and that itself isn't that many (Hyundai, Markeeter, Columbia (harley Davidosn)) and that's it Cusham and Tyler dunn are there for the "special" non golf cart
17/09/2013 @ 01:11:32: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
this was solved a lot of manufacturers used those cabs without decent shot of the front its impossible to tell so the solution in the comments (link) is OK imo
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_372406.html
17/09/2013 @ 10:44:25: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
We can keep it that way just in case
17/09/2013 @ 16:05:22: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
this was MIS ID and not at the same time
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_309016-E-Z-Go-ST.html

compare EZGO http://www.eagleproducts.us/v/vspfiles/assets/images/powder blue golf cart 2.jpg

Cusman http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/8574/hpim0880print4ds.jpg

looks badge engineering aplies to golf carts too cos they are the same


even in golf cart forum says its the same from outside (first post)

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-ezgo/79594-another-new-ezgo-st350-mpt1200-cushman-commander.html
17/09/2013 @ 16:37:51: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
this was solved a while back but you need to rear my link to have an idea how to name it
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_398085.html

and no wonder EZGO and Cushman look the same , seems they have a partnership on many models including shuttle , IMO if ther eis no badge visible then go with EZGO
17/09/2013 @ 20:06:05: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
not the main vehicle but think it should be taken, the Big Bear is rare on IMCDB (only 4 entries)

http://imcdb.org/vehicle_420116.html

the one in the foreground is something chinese but wasn't able to find it , it would actually deserve 2 stars since it was flipped in the air and damaged...

maybe the producers didn't want to damage the quality (and way more expensive) japanese quads...
17/09/2013 @ 20:26:27: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
It is still better to list the one in foreground, even if not identifiable currently
17/09/2013 @ 21:35:23: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
or make a separate entry for the Yamaha using same photo?


for the fire truck above perhaps best name it Kenworth model: Mack Class 155 or Kenworth-Mack as manufacturer and Class 155 as model
17/09/2013 @ 23:23:09: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
I do not find useful listing that background Yamaha obstructed by another vehicle.

For the Mack/Kenworth, Class 155 is not really a model name I think, it is the military designation.
18/09/2013 @ 10:25:10: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
well in the link they say "contruction of the vehicle on the Kenworth, 6 ton, 6x6, Model 572 and the Brockway, 6 ton, 6x6, Model 666, chassis "


the 572 is tow truck but cab seems almost identical to that fire truck (minus roof and doors)
http://m7.i.pbase.com/o6/57/50857/1/83744367.DfwYZwyu.1984G116Kenworth572.JPG

and in this link photos of them are listed as Kenworth 572 (but site is dutch) http://www.modelbouwjankorte.nl/fotos-brandweer-schiphol/






was solved and I really really hate chinese "products"
http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=313707

and this
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_291687.html which you remember as being same as this http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=630340
18/09/2013 @ 10:29:50: antp: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
But you gave two makes for these, Jinling and Golden Horse
18/09/2013 @ 10:32:18: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
you find dozens of "makes" for this things , I'll go with Jinling because that seem the actual factory name

you remember this, found at least 3 names for the same quad...
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_456091.html
18/09/2013 @ 15:17:36: mike962: Non-Unidentified Vehicles
solved
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_465039.html

and if that ATV is obscure then this should go I assume , it's one from the Pierce-Supthin-Spartan triangle but if its not worth keeping its not worth searching or its ID
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_553132.html
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