Subject: Mass change model info thread
03/12/2015 @ 18:07:00: antp: Mass change model info thread
I meant indeed for the other similar-named Jeep models, so I do not have to rewrite the query.
That's not much for the time (as indeed it takes me less time to do that than it takes for people who do the request do the search of info), but more for the risk of mistake on my side.
Each time I do a mass change there is a slight risk if I make a mistake in the query on the server, as it is done directly on the server it can have big consequences.
There is a daily backup, so in worse case there is less than a day lost. But that's still a big loss.
(once we lost like that a few hours of comments, as I had to restore the backup of that part)
I know you may feel unrewarded, well, that happens to everyone at some point :ohwell: I have no magical solution unfortunately...
05/12/2015 @ 02:25:00: DidierF: Mass change model info thread
Aw right, sorry, I probably was in a bad moment yesterday.
09/12/2015 @ 02:00:25: night cub: Mass change model info thread
First generation Hyundai Genesis sedans are listed on Wiki and a Hyundai forum as chassis code "BH"

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=2008&yearTo=201- 2&makeMatch=2&make=hyundai&modelMatch=1&model=genesis&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&class1=1&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
09/12/2015 @ 18:34:17: antp: Mass change model info thread
ok
09/12/2015 @ 20:19:42: Gamer: Mass change model info thread
What about the JAS/JBS chassis code for MKIV Ford Fiestas? Since my comments were deleted, I'll assume it was not such a good idea...But I saw the codes first in the TÜV report, and then on Wikipedia.
09/12/2015 @ 21:32:23: Sandie: Mass change model info thread
We don't use chassis codes for European Fords, not necessarily saying I agree with that (I prefer to use chassis codes to MK numbers as it's easier to search them though there is a generation field on the proper search page).
25/12/2015 @ 19:25:21: DidierF: Mass change model info thread
Salut antp, et joyeux Noël.

Je suggère un changement de date pour deux pages de modèles Citroën, ceux obtenus par cette liste : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1953&yearTo=195- 3&makeMatch=2&make=Citro%EBn&modelMatch=0&model=23&modelInclModel=on&mk=&origin=- &madein=&madefor=&role=
(les critères sont: dates : 1953-1953 ; marque : Citroën ; contient "23" dans le nom de modèle), que l'on passe la date de "1953" à "1954".

Je fais la suggestion en lisant la monographie d'Ivan Lavallade, "Le Citroën U23 de mon père". Les Citroën de ce type à cabine "Carrosserie de Levallois" ont été montrés au public au Salon de l'Auto d'octobre 53, et mis en vente en novembre 53, donc d'année-modèle 1954.

Outre la précision a minima, ça aurait l'avantage de laisser la place à certains Citroën 23 aux ailes enveloppantes qui datent, eux, vraiment de 1953, comme le montre la seule exception répertoriée dans la liste ci-dessus, qui est http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_180441-Citroen-Type-23-RU-1953.html et qu doit revenir à "1953" après le changement opéré (note que ce camion a été confirmé "de 53" par Ivan Lavallade lui-même, qui passe de temps en temps chez nous sous le pseudonyme de Lancelot).

(Je vais maintenant regarder ce qu'il en est pour le Type 55, qui est aussi de l'année-modèle 1954.)
25/12/2015 @ 21:10:00: antp: Mass change model info thread
C'est fait, joyeux noël à toi aussi :wink:
26/12/2015 @ 12:07:25: DidierF: Mass change model info thread
Merci pour tous !

Du coup (j'ai eu confirmation par Ivan Lavallade à qui j'ai écrit), cette liste,

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1953&yearTo=195- 3&makeMatch=2&make=Citro%EBn&modelMatch=0&model=55&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=

(dates : 1953-1953 ; marque : Citroën ; modèle : contient "55" dans le nom de modèle.)

peut être transformée aussi, "1953" devant devenir "1954" puisque les cabines "Levallois" caractérisent le nouveau Citroën 55 présenté à ce même Salon 53.

Il n'y a cette fois aucune exception au milieu de la petite trentaine de camions.

(Ensuite, un de ces jours, on essaiera de rationaliser un peu les noms de modèles que nous avons employés, surtout pour le Type 23.)
28/12/2015 @ 11:13:12: antp: Mass change model info thread
ok, c'est mis à jour
03/01/2016 @ 11:37:30: Gamer: Mass change model info thread
These are all 1999 or 2000 ET models due to clear indicators. Let's make them 1999 since we can't see if they're ET2 (99) or ET4 (00):
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_164733-Piaggio-Vespa.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_320305-Piaggio-Vespa.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_338916-Piaggio-Vespa.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_671959-Piaggio-Vespa.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_91392-Piaggio-Vespa-1997.html
http://imcdb.org/vehicle_318607-Piaggio-Vespa.html
I found a few others, but they had custom paint etc., so I wasn't sure.
03/01/2016 @ 18:00:59: antp: Mass change model info thread
This thread is for mass changes, not for a mass of individual changes
05/01/2016 @ 01:49:02: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
I think that Chevrolet Step-Van [P-10] should be renamed as Step-Van 7 P-10, as explained some times ago in this thread.
This way, 1962-66 models could have their accurate [P1345] model code, 1968-72 vans the [PS10535] one and 1973+ vehicles the [CP105] code.
1967 was a "stand-alone" [11035], but from what I checked there is no picture showing such a model in the IMCDb for now. And I corrected some small mistakes for the other model years.

http://i.imgur.com/CDf1lOOm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1m65GHCm.jpg
1963 brochure
 
 
http://i.imgur.com/8afDUkP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BrHntmv.jpg
05/01/2016 @ 18:31:02: antp: Mass change model info thread
These other chassis-codes are not very useful then.
In a way I guess it is logical to put the P-10 in the model name, since at that time C-10 / K-10 was also a model name for pickups.
There are two Step-Van 7 without P-10, is there a reason? Is it because they could be P-SomethingElse?
In that latter case, are really all current [P-10] what they are supposed to be? Or should they just because Step-Van 7 without P-10 ?
edit: I see there are only 10% of the Step-Van that have the P-10 in chassis code, so I suppose that the info is correct for these...
06/01/2016 @ 04:36:35: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
These other chassis-codes are not very useful then.

They are as useful as any model code given in the IMCDb, for me. What would make them less interesting than, say, an LX code on a 2006+ Dodge Charger or a GMT922 code on a 2007-14 GMC Yukon, among other examples?

In a way I guess it is logical to put the P-10 in the model name, since at that time C-10 / K-10 was also a model name for pickups.
There are two Step-Van 7 without P-10, is there a reason? Is it because they could be P-SomethingElse?

I'm not the one who added these 2 identifications, but it seems to be a mere omission. Unlike the "primal" 1958-68 Step-Vans or the 1964-91 Step-Van King models, which were either P-20 or P-30, the 1962-80 Step -Van 7s were all P-10s sharing the same current model code, even in 1966 and 1967 when 4 different boxes were available. It's a kind of "sub-model" name although having no "sibling" in the van line.
If needed, here is an overall view of the whole "family":
Model codes usually depend on the wheelbase and on the payload capacity.
• 1958-67 Step-Van
    ∗P-20 (1960-67)
       ♦ P2345 (1958-66) / 20945 (1967)
       ♦ P2545 (1958-66) / 21345 (1967)
       ♦ P2645 (1958-66) / 21545 (1967)
    ∗ 30 (1958-59) / P-30 (1960-67)
       ♦ 3445 (1958-59) / P3345 (1958-66) / 30945 (1967)
       ♦ 3545 (1958-59) / P3545 (1958-66) / 31345 (1967)
       ♦ 3745 (1958-59) / P3645 (1958-66) / 31545 (1967)
• 1961-80 Step-Van 7
    ∗ P-10
       ♦ P1345 (1961-66) / 11035 (1967) / PS10535 (1968-72) / CP105 (1973+)
• 1964-91 Step-Van King
    ∗ P-20
       ♦ P2535 (1964-66) / 21335 (1967) / PS/PE/PT20835 (1968-72) / CP208 (1973+)
       ♦ P2635 (1964-66) / 21535 (1967) / PS/PE/PT21035 (1968-72) / CP210 (1973+)
    ∗ P-30
       ♦ P3535 (1964-66) / 31335 (1967) / PS/PE/PT30835 (1968-72) / CP308 (1973+)
       ♦ P3635 (1964-66) / 31535 (1967) / PS/PE/PT31035 (1968-72) / CP310 (1973+)
       ♦ PS/PE/PT31435 (1968-72) / CP314 (1973+)
       ♦ CP318 (Aluminum body only. 1982+)

/!\ Some specs were modified along with the code changes. So the codes on a same line may not refer to exactly the same model but are just written this way to avoid too many lines in this quick listing.


In that latter case, are really all current [P-10] what they are supposed to be? Or should they just because Step-Van 7 without P-10 ?

So no Step-Van 7 P-SomethingElseThanP-10, and as 7 implies P-10, the P-10 could indeed be questioned. But as both were apparently part of the sales name, some other really weird but apparently factory-compliant identifications should then be questioned too (like the Dyna Z identified as 1954 Panhard Dyna 54 to 1959 Panhard Dyna 59, among other oddities) :grin:

edit: I see there are only 10% of the Step-Van that have the P-10 in chassis code, so I suppose that the info is correct for these...

I checked all Step-Van [P-10] IDs, and all are apparently Step-Van 7 indeed. I'll soon add the correct MY for the few vans without it. But I didn't check all Step-Vans, so:
• some Step-Van 7s may be lost among the Step-Van Kings. I'll add it to my "to be checked" list, which is like all lists, i.e. without limit except the one of my spare time. So it won't certainly be done in a few days :wink:
• I can't say if the [P-20] or [P-30] linkage is correct when present. But just for info, as P-20 and P-30 models shared the same wheelbases and bodies, it's almost impossible to differentiate the model for most of the vans.
• if accurate, the P-20/P-30 info should be part of the name, not of the code.
_____

By the way, I found a 1961 Chevrolet document (a salesmen's internal brochure) about it. I was apparently not the only one to be wrong about the unveiling year of this van: these 11 models should be "defaultmodelyearized" accordingly to that info, I think. I can of course change them manually if that number it's not worth writing a MySql script. Or write it for you, as long as I have the corresponding table and field names.
07/01/2016 @ 14:33:57: antp: Mass change model info thread

They are as useful as any model code given in the IMCDb, for me. What would make them less interesting than, say, an LX code on a 2006+ Dodge Charger or a GMT922 code on a 2007-14 GMC Yukon, among other examples?




Yes, there isn't much point in using these chassis code either :grin:
Some are much more useful because widely known and/or used to easily filter vehicles generations or regroup models having different names.

I'll do the updates later tomorrow probably :wink:
26/01/2016 @ 14:13:29: dsl: Mass change model info thread
Please can we have a block update on all Unic 12/14 hp taxis to read "Origin F, made in UK, made for GB" as discussed here?

Thanks
26/01/2016 @ 17:58:44: antp: Mass change model info thread
done
02/02/2016 @ 01:03:47: Sandie: Mass change model info thread
Something strange going on with Land-Rover Freelander codes. We use L22 for the first generation and L315 for the second but the only place these seem to come up on google is here (or for L315 some part sites list it in relation to the first generation). The ones I can find are L314 (MK1) and L359 (MK2) (on Wikipedia and some part sites who might just have copied Wikipedia) and CB40 for the MK1 (mentioned on Wikipedia and on AROnline) and L20 which wasn't widely used (again from AROnline).
02/02/2016 @ 01:40:56: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
Not the only code / model name that one can find only in the IMCDb. Collateral damage of repeated unchecked inner sourcing made by some contributors?
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