Subject: Mass change model info thread
20/02/2020 @ 17:47:27: JB007: Mass change model info thread

Regarding the Zace Surf, it's a complicated issue. I agree with the changes on the first paragraph, except the codes. Because F60 was for the pickup when the AUVs had F70 (short wheelbase) as well as F80 (long wheelbase) variations.
So, put F80 for the codes instead.
However, for the chassis cab, that's a no. The "Zace Surf" name only applied to the AUVs. The pickups/chassis cabs were only badged as Zace, with F60 as code. I've updated this one too.

Okay in this case, you have to put the Chassis-Code "F80" to all those there:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-Revo.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-Tamaraw+FX+Revo.html^
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Toyota_model-Unser.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1352813-Toyota-Zace-Surf-F60-2003.html

http://www.imcdb.org/search.php?resultsStyle=asList&sortBy=0&make=Toyota&model=Z- ace+Surf
two are listed as SUV, others as MPV, is there a reason for that difference?

No None.
21/02/2020 @ 09:55:12: Exiv96: Mass change model info thread
If you are sure all of those are long wheelbase versions, then I'm OK.


Now, I am asking for a mass change. 1988+ Honda Civic "Wagovans" were actually "Wagons", as confirmed in an old brochure and at the owners section of the official american Honda site.

http://www.auto-brochures.com/makes/Honda/Honda_US20Range_1990.pdf
25/02/2020 @ 08:39:33: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done
02/03/2020 @ 04:55:43: JB007: Mass change model info thread
Chassis Code "[X82]" for all "Renault Trafic Série 3", "Opel Vivaro [B]", "Nissan NV300", "Vauxhall Vivaro MkII" and "Fiat Talento 2a serie".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Trafic#Third_generation_(X82;_2014%E2%80%93present)
https://www.planeterenault.com/forum/renault-tous-les-codes-projets-vehicules-t6022.html
02/03/2020 @ 18:19:38: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done
04/03/2020 @ 01:24:42: JB007: Mass change model info thread
For all "Songhuajiang HFJ 6350", origin: Japan, built in China and made for CN because is rebadged eighth generation Suzuki Carry.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Songhuajiang_model-HFJ+6350.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafei
04/03/2020 @ 05:36:34: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
Could these 58 Freightliner Century be renamed as Freightliner Century Class, please?

https://pics.imcdb.org/18713/1996freightlinercenturyclass.jpg https://pics.imcdb.org/18713/1999freightlinercenturyclassbrochure.jpg https://pics.imcdb.org/18713/2001freightlinercenturyclassbrochure.jpg

(1996, 1999 and 2001? brochure covers)
05/03/2020 @ 05:53:57: Exiv96: Mass change model info thread
Another request : adding an RQ420 chassis code to these 42 Suzuki Forenzas.

http://imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Suzuki&model=Forenza&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on
05/03/2020 @ 08:45:36: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done
06/03/2020 @ 00:26:24: JB007: Mass change model info thread
Hi everyone, I need your help with the Chinese "Ford Transit".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-JMC-Ford_model-Transit.html
Since 2008, they are not called "News Transit"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit#Chinese_production_(2006%E2%80%932017)
06/03/2020 @ 03:22:21: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread

Thanks!
06/03/2020 @ 05:49:15: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
Hi everyone, I need your help with the Chinese "Ford Transit".
[...]
Since 2008, they are not called "News Transit"? [...]


According to JMC's corporate site(1), the New Generation Transit name (not "New Transit"(2)) was indeed apparently used at the beginning to promote the 2008+ Ford-JMC equivalent of the (European) 3rd generation Ford Transit while the 2008+ JMC models using the old design were renamed Transit Classic (see the 1997 step in JMC's chronology(1), where the 1st generation Ford-JMC van is retro-named that way).

The "New Generation Transit" name was apparently wiped out at some time, as for now JMC's site shows:
• As Ford, the Transit:
https://www.jmc.com.cn/images/en/ft3.jpg

• As JMC, the Touring/Teshun(3), which replaced the Classic Transit in 2017:
https://www.jmc.com.cn/images/en/ts1.jpg

As long as there's no indication about when the New Generation Transit regained the (just) Transit name , wouldn't it be safer to keep these vans as "just" Transit?
_____

1: "Development history", on jmc.com.cn;
2: "New transit" is used for the 2016+ equivalent of the European Transit Custom;
3: TeShun, according to JMC's chronology.
06/03/2020 @ 08:44:51: antp: Mass change model info thread
It often occurred that car makes use the "new" in front of the name when launching a model, but except the New Beetle and some VanHool buses, that "new" was not really part of the name in the end.
08/03/2020 @ 03:59:29: JB007: Mass change model info thread
eLMeR, antp> Thanks for your feedback, but if I understood then the version with the big black headlights is called "Transit Classic"?
08/03/2020 @ 05:58:24: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
Only from 2008 onwards. So, unless you know how to differentiate a 2006-2008 model from a 2008-2016 one, it's certainly better to keep all of them as "just" Transit, for consistency...
And for what it's worth, both auto-che.com and chinaautoweb.com, which seem to be Chinese car databases, call this model a Transit , without any complement.
08/03/2020 @ 14:50:57: JB007: Mass change model info thread
Only from 2008 onwards. So, unless you know how to differentiate a 2006-2008 model from a 2008-2016 one, it's certainly better to keep all of them as "just" Transit, for consistency...
And for what it's worth, both auto-che.com and chinaautoweb.com, which seem to be Chinese car databases, call this model a Transit , without any complement.

Ok, thank you.
10/03/2020 @ 16:26:58: JB007: Mass change model info thread
Chassis Code "[LY]" for all "2015+ Suzuki Vitara".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Vitara#Fourth_generation_(2015%E2%80%93present)
12/03/2020 @ 23:04:59: Exiv96: Mass change model info thread
NO ! Don't believe Wikipedia on that one. Chassis codes are YD for 2wd versions and YE for 4wd versions.

I know these ones so far.

YD21S 1.6 2wd (M16A) jp, aus
YE21S 1.6 4WD (M16A) jp, aus
YDA1S 1.4 turbo 2wd (K14C) eu
YEA1S 1.4 turbo 4WD (K14C) jp, eu, aus
YD..? 1.0 turbo 2wd eu
YE..? 1.0 turbo 4WD eu
13/03/2020 @ 06:18:31: eLMeR: Mass change model info thread
@JB: when unsourced, Wikipedia's info should be taken cautiously. Remember that everybody can contribute to WP, including people mistaking in good faith, people thinking that they're "possessing the absolute truth" or, alas, people wanting to act harmfully (if you look at certain articles' history, you'll see that the contributors of WP have often to correct counterproductive changes made "just for fun" :ohwell: ).
13/03/2020 @ 21:02:29: JB007: Mass change model info thread
@JB: when unsourced, Wikipedia's info should be taken cautiously. Remember that everybody can contribute to WP, including people mistaking in good faith, people thinking that they're "possessing the absolute truth" or, alas, people wanting to act harmfully (if you look at certain articles' history, you'll see that the contributors of WP have often to correct counterproductive changes made "just for fun" :ohwell: ).

Thank you, I’d be more careful in the future. :clindoeil:
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