Subject: Mass change model info thread
27/04/2023 @ 05:40:51: Parzival49: Mass change model info thread
About Tailung/ Suzuki BS / BS....in Taiwan

Brand name time line

1964-70 : Bridgestone (made by Tailung in TW)
1970 : All the production lines were sold to Tailung
1970-Sep. 1990 : BS Tailung
Oct. 1990-pr. : Suzuki


So....
1978+ BS Tailung Landie 50
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1583932
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1281553-Tailung-50.html
1982 BS Tailung Landie 50
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1778064-BS-Landie-50-1982.html

BS Tailung Lingyang 100
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1282264-Tailung-Lingyang-100.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1282513-Tailung.html

Suzuki Xiongshi (or Lion? 雄獅 model doesn't have official English name)
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1098459
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1585431-Suzuki-BS-125.html
1993 Suzuki (Xiongshi or Lion?) 125 SD
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1105771-Suzuki-BS-125-SD-1993.html

Above models are
Model origin: JP — Built in: TW — Made for: RC
08/05/2023 @ 14:33:57: JB007: Mass change model info thread
For Renault Fluence.
Year is "2009" for these vehicles:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1778118-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1752116-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1517543-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1511038-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1508939-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1470712-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1482956-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1488435-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1501536-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1501896-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1720007-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1438870-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1438803-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1429478-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1388929-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1381413-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1366417-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1334023-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1337435-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1365112-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1131335-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_928432-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1095456-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_962512-Renault-Fluence-L38.html

Year is "2010" for these vehicles:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1252732-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1177762-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_837286-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1060330-Renault-Fluence-L38.html

Year is "2013" for these vehicles:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1778532-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1665938-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1482991-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1488270-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1438860-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1468471-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1334024-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1387046-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1340058-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1340472-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1360887-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1227106-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1215502-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1227077-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1038099-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1133146-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1130111-Renault-Fluence-L38.html
08/05/2023 @ 22:56:44: night cub: Mass change model info thread
antp is on holiday this week, so please be patient with the mass changes.
15/05/2023 @ 13:13:41: antp: Mass change model info thread
Updated, thanks
18/05/2023 @ 13:27:55: opal: Mass change model info thread
Japan Origin, rebadged Mira.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Perodua_model-Kancil.html
18/05/2023 @ 17:27:20: antp: Mass change model info thread
Done
30/05/2023 @ 09:11:09: Parzival49: Mass change model info thread
About Toyota Corona Premio [T210] in Taiwan
All are [T210] Model origin: JP — Built in: TW — Made for: RC

1998+
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1191714-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1585423-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_784403-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1997.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_270020-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1997.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1352797-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1997.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1555311-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1997.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1556109-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1997.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1439225-Toyota-Corona-Premio-1998.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1352804-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1999.html

2000+
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1553161
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1586399
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1585417
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1580753
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1579582
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_364062-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1999.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_475273-Toyota-Corona-Premio-T210-1999.html
30/05/2023 @ 10:11:34: antp: Mass change model info thread
Updated
07/06/2023 @ 22:11:19: dhill_cb7: Mass change model info thread
Antp can you please add the chassis code to the 1st gen honda passport? 1994-1997.

[C58] shall suffice unless we know the motor.

C58E Passport 2.6L 4ZE1 (SOHC; EFI) 1994-1996
C58V Passport 3.2L V6 6VD1 (SOHC; EFI) 1994-1997

Source 1: https://magos.fr/complete-honda-chassis-code-list/
Source 2: http://importarchive.com/honda/passport/1994-1997/specs
08/06/2023 @ 14:13:50: antp: Mass change model info thread
OK I'll update them.

I'm not sure that it is worth including the E or V even when it is known. The interest of these codes is to easily regroup all the vehicles of a same generation. If we use more specific codes that feature is lost (I see that for some makes like Toyota we tend do use specialized codes more and more often for example, which I do not really see as useful).

For the second gen, Wikipedia mentions CK58/CM58/DM58, but on the site the codes used seem to be M58W and CK58W.
19/06/2023 @ 05:13:07: Parzival49: Mass change model info thread
About Toyota Kijang/ Zace and Mitsubishi Freeca

Class: Cars, Van / MPV
Zace Surf

As for Kijang, Revo,Tamaraw and Freeca
All the SUV needs to be changed to MPV
All the Chassis Cab needs to be changed to Pick-up

Model origin: Indonesia
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1422266
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1679452
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1104105
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1447334
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1447382

Class: Cars, Pick-up
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1671006
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1619442

I believe this is a pick-up instead of SUV :think:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=813109
19/06/2023 @ 09:46:54: antp: Mass change model info thread
For pickup vs chassis-cab, I don't know
cases like these look more like chassis-cab for example:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=736875
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1619442
21/06/2023 @ 14:20:55: Parzival49: Mass change model info thread
Can I assume these are the right examples of Chassis-cab and pick up?
If yes, then I agree the chassis-cab you said, since all the truck ver. of Freeca and Zace look like the top one
Chassis-cab
https://i-pickup.com.tw/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/1-3.jpg
Pick-up
https://img.carstuff.com.tw/images/stories/2020/Jason/09/14/IMG_0786.jpg
21/06/2023 @ 15:18:42: dhill_cb7: Mass change model info thread
^ yes. By definition and the way we classify here on the site that would be accurate.
21/06/2023 @ 15:33:21: antp: Mass change model info thread
Indeed, to me the top one is chassis-cab and bottom one is pickup (though that it with the split between the cab and the rear cargo area, even the bottom one could maybe be considered as a chassis-cab).
21/06/2023 @ 16:12:32: Parzival49: Mass change model info thread
Thanks! Then the links I pasted (Kijang, Revo,Tamaraw and Freeca) can be changed from pick-up to chassis cab :wink:
24/06/2023 @ 22:54:52: opal: Mass change model info thread
Rebadged Mazda, so Japan origin:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Asia_model-Combi.html
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Kia_model-Combi.html
27/06/2023 @ 10:53:19: JB007: Mass change model info thread
For all "e-208" and "e-208 GT", it's Mk2 and chassis-code is "P21".
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Peugeot_model-e-208.html
27/06/2023 @ 11:50:01: antp: Mass change model info thread
As there was no mk1, I don't know if it is useful: no risk to confuse it with the first 208
I suppose we did that with other model names in similar cases though.
27/06/2023 @ 15:15:42: antp: Mass change model info thread
cf https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=1703582#Comment3388760
While trying to clean the Hyundai i10 origin I made a mistake and lost origin & chassis of all Hyundai between 2008 and 2013
I'll try to recover some, but if you have ideas of some codes or origins to easily re-set (for model+year range) do not hesitate to post them here.

edit: or I'll rather try to recover the info from the back, I'll try to do that today or in the next days.
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