Also to be added to Task-Force trucks?
- the 4500, 6700 and 6800 school buses, 1958-59 ones being Viking buses (some errors in dates, but to be seen in comments);
- the medium-duty trucks of that time:
  ∗ 1955-57 Task Force ("only" ) 4100, 4400, 6100, 6400 and 10200.
  ∗ 1958-59 Task Force Viking (no 4100), 4400 (⇒ as already said, I think they should become "40" in IMCDb, as it is the number one can see on the trucks and in the brochures), 6100 and 6400 (⇒ both "60").
This last 6400 is an LCF, so IF really "5400" (cf. comment in the page) the name should be 1959 Chevrolet LCF-50 Viking or 1959 Chevrolet LCF-Series Viking [50]⁽¹⁾.

- There is errors on dates for almost one truck in three. I'll put propositions of correction in comment step by step. I haven't your Flash skills
- The way some numbers were given to trucks brings about some teeth-grinding: guessing the next number at the roulette table looks sometimes more scientific, and I'm not sure IMCDb gains in seriousness with some of the identifications. But I'll certainly create a thread for it.

Thanks for all the work done about this. It's easy to point out "naming disorder" but I known the corresponding work that has to be done in the Db is not that fun
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(1): I noticed some admins put the 3100, 3800, 4100, etc. numbers as "chassis" number. I think it's a interesting way of identification, as it allow to gather several generations of a same size of truck for some researches. Will the next generation of IMCDb use a kind of tags which could help that way?

I think it is better to put the 4-digit numbers in chassis code and the 2-digit one in extra info (it is a submodel of the Apache/Viking range).

The next version of the site allows grouping ranges and generations of models more efficiently.

Having the full model codes in the chassis field will also allow to more easily reclassify them when migrating data to the new site.

Possible date problem: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=440914

While we are busy cleaning all these Task-Force trucks, maybe we could do the same for the Advance-Design ones too?
I know you already suggested that previously, but I guess that now that we switched to that naming for the 1955+ ones, it would be logical to do the same for the older ones?
Or was the name less certain/known/official on these?

I didn't dare to propose that
The Advance-Design name was as official as the Task-Force and the C/K-Series ones.
And I'm sure using the right names everywhere will ease the switch to the IMCDb next gen'.

But if you don't mind, I'd like first to "finish the tour" for the Task-Force and C/K-Series trucks (there seems to be some small mistakes and oversights in some TF and C/K pages) and then "launch" the AD affair.
Moreover, I hope we will be first able to set up a kind of "user's guide" for the identification of the AD trucks, as there is a lot of names possible:
- "common use but unofficial" ones with ½-ton to 1½-ton;
- hood emblems, ads and brochures ones with 3100 to 6700;
- quasi-unknown ones with Thrifmaster an Loadmaster in ads and side hood emblems from 1947 to mid-1949;
- and don't forget the chassis codes Ddey65 gave some years ago.

If you're Ok, I'll create a special thread with a proposition of table for that in a few days, so we will be able to start this mass renaming with best possible tools (at least I hope so ).

And I hope find enough literature so we can do the same with the 1941-47 AK-Series (also known as Art Deco?) at some point... I even dream to find some pages with informations on the GMC counterparts of all these trucks

Sure, one series at a time will be easier to manage

I forgot to mention the 1955-58 Chevrolet Cameo Carrier, the forerunner of the El Camino.
Like the Suburban, it was sold as a semi stand-alone car, but was heavily related to the Task-Force light-duty trucks line: it was nothing less (or more?) than a 3100 pickup with a different bed, a car-like trim level and... an extra 7.8" / 20 cm length (with the same wheelbase and bed length: so due to the bigger rear wings and bumpers?).
And like the Suburban, which was in fact a "Suburban Carryall" (or "Carry-all Suburban" or "Caryall Suburban", depending on the generation) until 1966, the Cameo Carrier is most often humanly called "Cameo" only. Which may explain why the 3 models of the IMCDb lack the "Carrier" part of their name


(1956 Chevrolet Cameo Carrier // 1955 Chevrolet Cameo Carrier

/!\ Not to be confused with the 1958-59 Fleetside bed option of the Task-Force Apache pickups, all the more so as there is a 1958 Chevrolet Cameo

(1958 Chevrolet Cameo Carrier// 1958 Chevrolet Task-Force Apache with Fleetside bed)


(1958 Chevrolet Cameo Carrier // 1959 Chevrolet Task-Force Apache with Fleetside bed)

The fender emblem announced Chevrolet 3100 for 1955 and 1956 models, Chevrolet 3124 for 1957 ones and Chevrolet Apache 31 for 1958 trucks, all model carrying the 3124 chassis code (or 3154 if 4WD, in 1958 I need more literature reading to confirm the 4WD version) in Chevrolet literature.
So I was wondering if we should report these numbers and code in the IMCDb?

By the way, shouldn't this IMCDb page picture be "demoted" as comment one on the other page, as these two pictures are said to be shots of the same car? The grille is not really representative of a Cameo, it is exactly the same as the one of a "normal" '57 light-duty truck.

Indeed these should be regrouped
edit: done

For the numbers code, why not, if there are none yet for some models and if they are official ones, we can use them

Could have been in its own thread, with a title like:
Chevrolet Panel Truck [C-Series] or Chevrolet C/K-Series Panel?

As a reminder, GMC and Chevrolet called these vehicles "panels" only, without any "trucks" or anything else more.

It would indeed make sense to call these trucks C-Series Panels, as they were utility trucks made on the C/K-Series basis (chassis, almost all the cab, engines, power train, etc.) and where named C-Something Panels or K-Something Panels (with the Chevrolet chassis code) in the brochures. If I were asked to choose a name, well, my choice is already made: C/K-Series (or C-10 / K-10 / C-30) Panel, plus the chassis code if a C/K-10 or C-30 model can be identified

But if I'm not mistaken, with this Chevrolet C/K-Series Panel name, these panel trucks will be only related to the C/K-Series (or to C/K-10 / C-30 trucks if the model is identified), not to the Chevrolet panels of other generations. With the current Chevrolet Panel Truck [C-Series] identification, one can compare it directly to 1940 to 1969 Chevrolet Panel trucks, and a click on [C-Series] gives all the trucks of this category.
But there is currently no possibility to give the extra chassis code (C/K1405 // C3605) to an identified truck, as it is already "occupied", and the 1960-61 "Apache" models have no place to show it either, except in complement.

But I also know it's a problem only with this version of the IMCDb, and the "next gen." should unblock the situation. So, what "sounds" better, and what will help more, now and later ?
- proposed Chevrolet C/K-Series Panel and derivatives:
   • Chevrolet K-10 Panel [K1405]
   • Chevrolet C/K-Series Apache Panel
   • Chevrolet C-30 Apache Panel [C3605]
   • and so on.

- or current Chevrolet Panel Truck [C-Series] and derivatives:
   • Chevrolet Panel Truck C1405 [C-10] // Chevrolet Panel Truck C-10 [C1405]?
   • Chevrolet Panel Truck [K-Series]
   • Chevrolet Panel Truck Apache [C/K-Series] ?
   • etc.

For the previous generations of panels (1940 trucks, 1941-47 Art Deco, 1947-55 Advance-Design and 1955-59 Task-Force ones) the current identification seems to always be:
19xx Chevrolet Panel Truck (if model unknown)
19xx Chevrolet Panel Truck [3105] (if ½-ton model is identified. So it can be a [3805] for a 1-ton model)

It would be frank to add that changing the C/K-Series panels implies changing more or less quickly the Task-Force ones to be logical, and shortly after the Advance-Design ones too. And maybe the 1967-72 "Action Line" C/K panels, as it seems to exist panels from that generation... Which will (temporarily?) break the above-mentioned link between all these panels.
(I'm aware that I don't work for my proposal, with that argument )
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Panels-related subsidiary question: shouldn't we "start" a GM Panel page, as there are several GM panels (from all generations) for which the make can't be identified?

To me it seems cleaner the first solution, as suggested previously.
Even if the panel versions aren't linked together (which does not have so much interest) they are more close to the original names.

For the Advance Design, same as Task Force, I suppose.

For older ones, we could either list them as Panel model, or without model, just Panel in extra info, not sure what would be the best.

About the GM ones, how are the equivalent GMC named?
We could default to Chevrolet rather than use the generic GM, if more common and if that helps listing them.

(The author disclaims any liability for yawns, lethargy or sleeping that may occur while reading this "slightly" long post )


Then
• these panels (deliveries / trucks / vans) are Chevrolet C/K-Series Apache Panel
(except:
  ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_65180-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-1960.html
  ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_251778-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-1960.html
  ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_414545-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-1960.html
  ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_187429-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-C-Series-1960.html
  ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_552736-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-C-Series-1961.html
that can't be clearly identified as Chevrolet. See the "Non-identifiable trucks part" below)

• these ones are Chevrolet C/K-Series Panel.
(except 10 or more that can't be more identified than GM Panels. I'll note it in comments)


• Task-Force:
For the name, 1956 brochure cover says "Panel trucks", but the inner pictures have only "Panel model 3105 / 3805" captions. 1958 and 1959 brochures use "Panels" only.

  → 4 1958-59 Chevrolet Task-Force Apache Panels (2 wrong MY amongst them, one already noted in comments, the other soon to be);
  → 17 1955-57 Chevrolet Task-Force Panels.

/!\ This one is a 1955 Advance-Design Panel, it's what is called a "1955 1st Series" ("2nd Series" being the 1955 Task-Force trucks), as said by 56chevy in the comments.

• Advance-Design:
For the name, the word "Panel" is alone in the table of contents of the 1948 brocure and in the pages dedicated to the 3105 and 3805 models. Same thing for the 1951 brochure and the 1954 one (except there is no T.O.C. for this one).

  → 43 1947-54 Chevrolet Advance-Design Panels (plus the sole "1955 1st Series" model that was mentioned in the Task-Force part)
  - plus these 4 models without MY (1947 by default - date proposal in comments for all, in fact, but "lost" since April ):
    ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_499943-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck.html
    ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_260427-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-3105.html
    ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_289883-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-3800.html
    ∗ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_290087-Chevrolet-Panel-Truck-3800.html

By the way, all 22 IMCDb 1948 Panels models should be given a 1947 model year: the Advance-Design trucks line was unveiled in June 1947 as a "mid-1947" MY. And no exterior changes were made to the trucks until early 1949 (the gas tank change).


It's a real mess, for the names. I fear to start digging in these trucks pages
This concerns 17 trucks. Maybe only 16, as one is said to be a Delivery Sedan. I haven't yet make any real researches about the pre-1947 trucks lines, so I have no idea on how they can be called. Maybe we should just standardize the model names (Panel truck?), so that it will be easier to find them later if anyone has a good solution?

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Non-identifiable trucks part
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Similar question about "GM only" trucks led to a reminder given by t0nkatracker about an already existing use in IMCDb: the "GM only solution". Shouldn't it be done the same way here to preserve the consistency of the naming?


• For the "Panel only" name:
For Chevrolet literature, cf. above and the 1970 brochure (it was the last year of production for the panels). 1954, 1964 and 1967 GMC brochures show that these trucks were also called "panels" only, without any "trucks" or anything else more.
Can we assume it was the same for both makes for the whole 1947-70 interval?

• About the trucks line names:
- 1955-59 trucks: GMC name for these trucks line was "Blue Chip" (without hyphen). So "GM Task-Force" would be a kind of misnomer... GM Task-Chip? GM Blue-Force?
More serious, GM Blue Chip/Task-Force Panel? Not an easy name, but that way an advanced research with just the "Blue Chip" (or "Task-Force") name will give both GM and GMC (or GM and Chevrolet) trucks...

- 1947-55 trucks: GMC trucks seemed to be called "New Design" models. But I haven't find (for now) any contemporary document with that name. Lot of enthusiasts just call these models GMC Advance-Design trucks, but enthusiasts without sources are not my favorite leads... GM Advance-Design/New Design Panel? Same idea as above for the advanced research.
2 panels of this era are already identified as GM "Panel vans". The 2 others should be categorized into the GM C/K-Series Panel pages.

- C/K were... C/K for both Chevy and GMC, so no problem for a GM C/K-Series Panel. For the record, GM C/K-Series already exists in the IMCDb.

a lot of info here
I'll check all that.
About the GM generic name, it is a facility for us because GM somewhat exists as make, but note that for many other cases we do not use a generic name but we rather pick a model randomly. The most common being Dodge Diplomat and its clone.
Note that we do that even for some GM : the Chevrolet Express vs GMC Savana for example, even if not identifiable properly we do not list these as GM.
We did that only when we had a common name (C/K-Series, Suburban).
As Chevrolet seems much more common than GMC for these older trucks, I would list these as Chevrolet unless they can be identified as GMC.

While we're busy with these vehicles, the following are surprisingly alone :
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Chevrolet&model=Carryall&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=- on
+ http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_475410-Chevrolet-Suburban-Carryall-1957.html
their siblings are probably listed in a different way

and these five without year:
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&sortBy=2&make=Chevrolet&model=- Panel+
are maybe in one of the other categories
(I've listed all the pre-54 models as just "Panel")

Doesn't it mean that all are 1948 model? (cf the '64½ Mustang)
1948 seems often given as lower bound of the date range of these

(Off-topic: Talking about clones... http://imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=18803#Comment1652221 )


I won't say I'm keen of that kind of "identification", but as long as I know what to propose when identifying (or not, in this case ) a vehicle, I will handle it. Are most of these "conventions" in the "Naming conventions" category of the forum or just as "admins uses"?


These trucks are not really common in France, and experience taught me that movies aren't reality. So I may not be the right person to give you the correct answer
My impression for Advance-Design trucks line is that most light-duty trucks were Chevrolet models. It might be the same (or half-and-half?) for medium-duty (called "heavy-duty" by Chevrolet) 1½-ton an 2-ton models. For models above, only GMC trucks existed until 1955.
But I don't know for later trucks lines.


How do you prefer the identification proposals to be made? Here with a "first is..., second...", here with links for each, or in the comments of each page?


You mean pre-1947, as I saw 1947-55 an Advance-Design Panels category?


For what it is worth, the 1947 MY has its own "data sheets", and:
- All (credible) sources I know say there are 1947 models:
   http://1954advance-design.com/A-D_LCVA/LCVA-1-47.html
   http://www.classicparts.com/frame-truck-years.html
   http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1947-1955-chevrolet-trucks.htm
etc.
- Even "enthusiasts-based" websites use this MY:
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Advance_Design
   http://classicchevytrucks.org/advanced-design-1947-55/ (a lot of enthusiasts sites say "Advanced" )
and so on.
- The IMCDb crew too already use it for 3100 to 6400 models, pickups, Suburbans, etc.

I think we should generalize this 1947 MY start.

A lot of things are just "common knowledge" on imcdb, so there is unfortunately no faq/repository with all the habits of the site
It is so annoying to write documentation...

in comments, so there is a trace of why it was named that way (mostly in case someone suggests another name)

Yes of course, I meant the oldest ones

Do not forget these few, when you've time: